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Misc Thoughts on Abortion

Abortion    The Christian Thing To Do

Every Sperm Is Sacred (Monty Python song)

John List- Murdered His Family to Send Them to Heaven

Bombing Churches The Next Logical Step  

Florida resident Stephen Jordi was arrested by the FBI in Miami on Tuesday, November 11, 2003, for allegedly plotting to bomb abortion clinics and commit violence against abortion providers, churches that do not oppose abortion strongly enough, and gay people.   http://www.plannedparenthood.org/extreme/031218_jordi.html

There was no mistaking Stephen John Jordi's religious fervor. He has fire-and-brimstone tattoos on both forearms and gave his four children -- including a daughter born last weekend -- the names Trinity, Charity, Elijah and Noah.  But was Jordi a fanatical antiabortion activist hellbent on firebombing clinics? Those who know him remember him proselytizing, but not about abortion. However there were some hints of a violent nature simmering below the surface.  He got kicked out of the Pensacola Bible Institute for violent behavior, said brother-in-law Rodney Ward of Pensacola. ''Something about a gun and throwing a rock,'' he said.  http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/local/7250033.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp&1c
 

A religious fundamentalist pleaded innocent Wednesday to bomb and weapons charges in an alleged plot to blow up abortion clinics, disloyal churches and gay bars.  http://www.covenantnews.com/abortion/archives/004271.html

Misc Thoughts on Abortion

Senator John Kerry:    "I oppose abortion personally. I don't like abortion. I believe life begins at conception. But I can't take my Catholic belief, my article of faith, and legislate it on a Protestant or a Jew or an atheist... who doesn't share it. We have separation of church and state in the United States of America."
(Orange County Register, July 27, 2004 p. News 7)

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It is disgusting to common decency that "Pro-life" fanatics would have been morally opposed to Old Testament women having had abortions the day BEFORE they were "scheduled" to have their fetuses ripped out on Biblegod's command* via sword by Israeli army soldiers. While they would have, with much feigned moral outrage, protested abortions performed by a qualified doctor in a medical setting, they would NOT have objected one bit, in fact would have even helped out with, abortions done the next day on Biblegod's command.

This is what the god of the so-called anti-abortion fanatics commanded his followers:

Deuteronomy 2:34     We... utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain.
Numbers 31:17     Kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
Hosea 13:16     They've rebelled against God... their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women 
ripped open.

Jesus looooves the little chilllllldren, all the children of the world.  Be they yellow black or white, they are precious in his sight, Jesus loves the little children of the world.

Christians who condemn abortion doctors as being "morally evil" without
 condemning the greatest abortion "doctor" in all history 
(Biblegod) are damn hypocrites.

AIDS in Africa    According to several *sources, in Africa there are more people dying from AIDS each day than died in the World Trade Center. Every day. Day after day. Do you know what would prevent these deaths? A condom. A simple condom. Yet the Catholic Church is doing everything in its power to prevent these people from obtaining and/or using condoms. The Catholic Church, in its "head up its ass" wisdom, would rather see SIX THOUSAND PEOPLE A DAY die, than let them or encourage them to use condoms and live. That's true Christian love. That's also a good example of the way religion hardens and destroys the basic feelings of compassion we're born with. These Christians, had they been born back in the time of Christ, would have let the donkey that fell in the well die, rather than break the rule of "no work" on the Sabbath.

* http://www.ditlafrica.com/pressroom/QandA.html   http://www.lwr.org/advocacy/africa/aidsnov014.html   

Distasteful Doesn't Equal Wrong    Oft times Christians will parade around larger than life pictures of aborted fetuses, complete with blood, guts, and gore. Their unspoken logic? "If this makes you sick to your stomach, abortion must be wrong". Well, based upon THAT unspoken logic, many surgical procedures must be wrong. Take heart surgery- how many of us, not in the medical profession, could stand open eyed next to some guy getting his chest sliced open and heart removed? How many of us could watch an appendix get removed, without losing our lunch? If some sicko were to make a blow-up photo of a removed wisdom tooth, with all the bloody stringy flesh still dangling, would that sensation of nausea in your gut mean that dentistry should be outlawed???

CHRISTIAN HYPOCRISY REGARDING ABORTION     How many times have I heard some middle-aged Christian hag try to explain that while SHE had abortions in her youth, she wants to take that option away for any that are more youthful and pretty than she is now. At the point in her life where no man would get close enough to her to get her pregnant in the first place, she NOW decides she is against abortions. Or how about Catholic priests who almost make a living out of battling abortion clinics, yet when THEY get some teenager pregnant, guess where they take her??? To an abortion clinic!!! One such priest is Father John Lenihan, former pastor of St. Edward Catholic Church in Dana Point, who according to the Orange County Register (3/14/03, News- page 1) got a 16 year old girl PREGNANT then PAID FOR HER ABORTION. Not only was she UNDER AGE Father (remember, 16 will get you 20!!!), but you were a damn HYPOCRITE to get an abortion done when it was good for YOU, yet condemn others when it was good for THEM!!!

WET SPOT  -VS-  TALKING APE  Christians place more value in a wet spot on a woman's panty than they do on an intelligent talking (via sign language) gorilla named Koko. They believe the microscopic wet spot, if it contains a single human sperm that's made it into a single human egg, is in the scheme of things the thing to save in a house fire, rather than the talking gorilla, if it came down to a choice. And upon what do they base this value judgment? Their reading of an obsolete religious text entitled "The Bible".

Charlie Kopp: Doctor Killer   On Oct. 23, 1998 Jim Kopp fired an armor plated bullet from a Russian assault rifle into the back of one Dr. Barnett Slepian. In his trial (March 2003) he was labeled a "religious terrorist" by prosecutor Joe Marusak, who went on to say "Whether they shoot to kill for Christ or Allah... they are religious zealots." Defense attorney Bruce Barket countered with "Jim wanted to save the children that Slepian was going to kill... Jim did not just wake up one day and decided he should start shooting abortion doctors. Jim was a Christian." (Washington Post, 3/17/03)

COMMENTS ON ABOVE:  If Jim REALLY wanted to "save children"  (praise Jesus!!!) not from abortion (which kills only the body), but from the very fires of hell itself (praise Jesus!!!) he should have been HELPING Dr. Slepian abort even MORE children  (praise Jesus!!!)- as many children as possible (praise Jesus!!!). For every aborted children flies straight to the arms (praise Jesus!!!) of (praise Jesus!!!) Jesus  (praise Jesus!!!). Instead of growing up  (praise Jesus!!!) and having a high chance of rejecting Jesus and thus going to HELL, the baby  (praise Jesus!!!) bypasses this life altogether and goes directly to heaven  (praise Jesus!!!). After all, this life  (praise Jesus!!!) is not important, and  (praise Jesus!!!) there's nothing in  (praise Jesus!!!) this life  (praise Jesus!!!) that even  (praise Jesus!!!) compares  (praise Jesus!!!) to  (praise Jesus!!!) heaven, so  (praise Jesus!!!) why not just  (praise Jesus!!!) go there directly??? This whole "life on earth" is but a "vapor" that exists only  (praise Jesus!!!) to get people to  (praise Jesus!!!) heaven, this life  (praise Jesus!!!) doesn't matter  (praise Jesus!!!), only heaven matters. So therefore, abort as many preborns as possible, and guarantee their entry right  (praise Jesus!!!) into  (praise Jesus!!!) the  (praise Jesus!!!) waiting  (praise Jesus!!!) arms  (praise Jesus!!!) of  (praise Jesus!!!) Saint Peter  (praise Jesus!!!) (praise Jesus!!!) (praise Jesus!!!) (praise Jesus!!!) (praise Jesus!!!) (praise Jesus!!!) (praise Jesus!!!) (praise Jesus!!!) (praise Jesus!!!) (praise Jesus!!!) (praise Jesus!!!) (praise Jesus!!!) (praise Jesus!!!) (praise Jesus!!!) (praise Jesus!!!) (praise Jesus!!!) (praise Jesus!!!) (praise Jesus!!!) (praise Jesus!!!) (praise Jesus!!!) (praise Jesus!!!) (praise Jesus!!!) (praise Jesus!!!) (praise Jesus!!!) (praise Jesus!!!) (praise Jesus!!!) (praise Jesus!!!) (praise Jesus!!!) (praise Jesus!!!)   I'm cuckoo for coca puffs! Cuckoo for coca puffs!!!

Abortion    The Christian Thing To Do

--Mark Smith

Luckily for mankind, most Christians don't take their religion that seriously. If they really believed deep down inside all the crap they say they believe, there would be massive trouble. For example, Christians would be the biggest proponents of abortion, infanticide, and child murder in the world. Why? To save souls, why else!

That is, of course, if they really took their religion seriously. You see, a normal fetus left to develop into an infant then into an adult has maybe a 90% or higher chance of going to hell, for most adults fail to find the "straight and narrow", at least according to Fundies. Now, imagine instead that all Fundy women went about it this way, that their fetus / zygote whatever were aborted say in the first month. According to most Christians, this fetus goes straight to heaven. So let's do the math... say a woman gets pregnant once a month, and aborts it once a month. That's 12 souls guaranteed to go to heaven a year. If she does this for maybe 20 years of her life, that would mean a grand total of 240 souls to heaven. Now of course, she would be sacrificing her own soul to do this, if she believes abortion is a sin... but wait! I forgot, she has a moral "blank check", a "get out of jail free" card, so she'll just do an "I'm sorry Lord" when she's done, Jesus has already signed the check, and she gets into heaven too! So now its 240 plus 1 souls to heaven! Hallelujah! Praise Jesus! She's gotten more people into heaven than most preachers!

Even if she fails to get forgiven and ends up in hell, what a noble sacrifice! She has sacrificed her one soul in order to guarantee 240 other souls make it to heaven. This meshes perfectly with what Jesus himself said:   Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. (John 15:13). She has really shown how deep a Christian mother's love can be. She has shown that she wasn't into Christianity just for the selfish reason of saving her own ass from going to hell. And she has actually made a BIGGER sacrifice than Jesus'. Jesus popped back up three days later; this woman will never pop back up, but will roast for all eternity, being seared and basted and tortured by her loving Biblegod.

Maybe to get even more souls into heaven, the Christians could do this. Since they think that life begins the moment a sperm digs itself into an egg, they could line up a few eggs under a microscope, then line up the million or so sperm a man typically produces in one ejaculate. Then, they could take tweezers and jam each sperm into an egg for just a fraction of a second. At the point, to them, it's a fully legal human being with a soul. Then, jerk the little squiggly out, presto! The newly formed soul flies away to heaven. Grab another sperm, do likewise, another soul to heaven! Just imagine! The Fundies could set up massive factories where thousands of workers engage in this soul-winning task 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Of course, getting the ejaculate may be a problem- after all, Christians would only allow the Amish edition of Playboy to stimulate the sperm donors with.

But why stop with the pre-born and zygotes? According to most Christians, if kids die before they reach the "age of accountability" (around 12, give or take) they also go straight to heaven, whereas if they are allowed to live to adulthood, the vast majority will reject Jesus (according to the Fundy perception, that is) and go straight to hell. According to this Christian "logic" then, it would be in the best interests of the kids to kill them all before they reach 12 and have a chance to think for themselves and reject Jesus. Funny how most people reject Jesus when they are able to think for themselves, isn't it? Maybe that's a clue, Christians... But back to our story- Just think! Millions and millions more guaranteed entrance into heaven. Christians could hunt down and kill every single kid on the planet, for their own good, of course. If the kids suffer in the process, it's for a good cause. And again, the Christians doing the mass murders only have to do an "I'm sorry Lord" when they're all done to get their own souls into heaven- a win-win situation! Maybe Andrea Yates, who drowned her five kids to get them into heaven, could become the "patron saint" for this new movement. Or maybe Magdalena Lopez, who put her faith into practice and SAVED her two sons, as we read in the L.A. Times}

Mother Pleads Guilty, Mentally Ill to Murders     A mother who told police she beat her two sons to death so they could go to heaven pleaded guilty but mentally ill to murder. In return for the plea, prosecutors in Crown Point (Indiana) agreed not to seek the death penalty or life without parole for Magdalena Lopez. Police responding to a 911 call in July found Antonio, 9, and Erik, 2, dead at the family's home. They had been bludgeoned with a 10-pound weight. (Los Angeles Times, 3/2/06 p. A18)

For which is more important in the grand scheme of things- our little wisp of a life here on earth, or our eternal life lasting into the eons??? Certainly if murdering all the kids on this planet under the age of 12 gets them saved forever, then praise God! AND, there's a side benefit- those kids of all the Atheists and Pagans and Hindu's and such that you never had a snowball's chance of converting, guess what? If you forget converting them and just kill them instead, they'll end up in heaven regardless of what their parents want or think!

Like I said at the beginning, lucky for mankind that most Christians don't take their religion that seriously.

(see also a case example of what I'm writing about here: John List- Murdered His Family to Send Them to Heaven )

(see also:  http://www.caseagainstfaith.com/strobel.htm  and do a word search via CTRL-F for abortion)

Sperm}  Why aren't the pro-lifers concerned with the murder of billions of little sperm every day? They look like little tadpoles, they move around, they go from point A to point B, they have a purpose to their life. Do they have souls? If one squirms into an egg, then backs out, is it murder? Pro-lifers should show more concern for their sperm, for...

Every Sperm Is Sacred

Composers: David Howman & Andre Jacquemin
Authors: Michael Palin & Terry Jones  (Monty Python)
From the Movie 'The Meaning of Life'
 http://www.wilken.freeserve.co.uk/Montypython/Songs/song15.htm 

DAD:

There are Jews in the world.

There are Buddhists.

There are Hindus and Mormons, and then

There are those that follow Mohammed, but

I've never been one of them.

I'm a Roman Catholic,

And have been since before I was born,

And the one thing they say about Catholics is:

They'll take you as soon as you're warm.

You don't have to be a six-footer.

You don't have to have a great brain.

You don't have to have any clothes on. You're

A Catholic the moment Dad came,

Because

Every sperm is sacred.

Every sperm is great.

If a sperm is wasted,

God gets quite irate.

CHILDREN:

Every sperm is sacred.

Every sperm is great.

If a sperm is wasted,

God gets quite irate.

GIRL:

Let the heathen spill theirs

On the dusty ground.

God shall make them pay for

Each sperm that can't be found.

CHILDREN:

Every sperm is wanted.

Every sperm is good.

Every sperm is needed

In your neighbourhood.

MUM:

Hindu, Taoist, Mormon,

Spill theirs just anywhere,

But God loves those who treat their

Semen with more care.

MEN:

Every sperm is sacred.

Every sperm is great.

WOMEN:

If a sperm is wasted,...

CHILDREN:

...God get quite irate.

PRIEST:

Every sperm is sacred.

BRIDE and GROOM:

Every sperm is good.

NANNIES:

Every sperm is needed...

CARDINALS:

...In your neighbourhood!

CHILDREN:

Every sperm is useful.

Every sperm is fine.

FUNERAL CORTEGE:

God needs everybody's.

MOURNER #1:

Mine!

MOURNER #2:

And mine!

CORPSE:

And mine!

NUN:

Let the Pagan spill theirs

O'er mountain, hill, and plain.

HOLY STATUES:

God shall strike them down for

Each sperm that's spilt in vain.

EVERYONE:

Every sperm is sacred.

Every sperm is good.

Every sperm is needed

In your neighbourhood.

Every sperm is sacred.

Every sperm is great.

If a sperm is wasted,

God gets quite iraaaaaate!

John List- Murdered His Family to Send Them to Heaven

For those who think I am being too unreal about abortion in my essay on this page (Abortion: The Christian Thing to Do) they need to take a look at a murder case that occurred on November 9, 1971 in Westfield, New Jersey. John List was a wealthy accountant, a devout church member; a Sunday school teacher at his local Lutheran church. This Christian killed his wife, his three children, and his mother, and in the note he left, he wrote that he got down and prayed after each one.  The reason that a Christian who truly believes his religion could do something like this, is because his religion offers him a "blank-check" morality, which draws on an imaginary account of forgiveness in the Bank of Heaven that can never run out. Christian morality, rather than making society better, actually has the opposite effect, as no Christian has any loyalty to this life or current society.

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My most personal feeling about List is that he was so imbued with religious fervor from his years of association with the church, as a teacher, that he really believed at the moment of those murders the victims would be better off in heaven than on this earth.   (Forrest Clark, one of the reporters who covered the case, as found in  http://members.aol.com/livingwithwords/johnlist.htm )

List briefly considered suicide but was convinced that suicides don't go to heaven. His second best option, to his warped thinking, was to kill his family, leave town, and assume a new identity. He knew he could ask God for forgiveness for the murders and that God must forgive him.  ...List spoke of being reunited with his family in Heaven.   (Poppy Dixon,  http://www.jesus21.com/poppydixon/crime/john_list_update.html )

From the letter that John List left behind at the crime scene:   At least I'm certain that all have gone to heaven now.  ...Of course Mother got involved because doing what I did to my family would have been a tremendous shock to her at this age. Therefore, knowing that she is also a Christian I felt it best that she be relieved of the troubles of this world that would have hit her.  ...After it was all over I said some prayers for them all from the hymn book. That was the least that I could do.   ...Originally I had planned this for Nov. - All Saints Day. But travel arrangements were delayed. I thought it would be an appropriate day for them to get to heaven.   As for me please let me be dropped from the congregation rolls. I leave myself in the hand of Gods justice and mercy. I don't doubt that he is a able to help us, but apparently he saw fit not to answer my prayers they way I had hoped that they would be answered. This make me think that perhaps it was for the best as far as the children's souls are concerned. I know that many will only look at the additional years that they could have lived but if finally they were no longer Christians what would be gained.  ...I'm only concerned with making my peace with God and of this I am assured because of Christ dying even for me. (http://www.jesus21.com/poppydixon/crime/john_list.html )