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The Bible:  Worthy of Your Trust?


Eyewitness Testimony Invalidated

     Responses to Eyewitness Testimony Invalidated

God Is Not The Author

History or HIS-STORY?

How Firm A Foundation... of Forgeries???

James the Brother of Jesus

Schizophrenia and Personal Revelations

     Responses to Schizophrenia




The God of The Bible

Biblegod Is Not Perfect

    Responses to Biblegod Not Perfect

Biblegod The Warcriminal

    Responses to Biblegod
The Warcriminal


Tyrannosaurus Pettius Rex

Jehovah Unmasked

In or Out or Neit
her


Acts of God

September 11th Biblegod Did Nothing

    Responses to September 11th




The God of The Bible:
Does He Exist?

E=MC Disproves God

    Responses to E=MC

How To Prove The Existence of God

    Responses to How To Prove The Existence of God

Shopping For A God

Transcendental La La Land




Caught in a Lie:  Contradictions Within The Bible

Don't Be Such A Cretan

The Genealogy of Jesus

Galilee vs Jerusalem

Matthew vs John

Intrinsic Contradictions

Splainin To Do

The Intercontinental Ballistic Jesus

The Sign on The Cross

     Responses to The Sign on The Cross




Sand, Not Rock:  What Christianity is Really Built Upon

The Atonement

Monotheism Not Biblical

The Ten Commandments

Christianity Has Pagan DNA

Faith

Misc. Topics & Thoughts




Jesus:  False Prophet?


False Prophet- Liar, Fraud!

 If Anybody Else But Jesus…

 Jesus and His Expired Prophecies

Matthew 24 Verse by Verse

Mt 24:34 What The Scholars Say

Significance of Jesus Being a False Prophet

Preterism

     Responses to Jesus The False Prophet




Jesus:  Resurrected?

Even If True

Evidence That Doesn't Demand a Verdict

The Roman Soldiers: "We Were There!"

     Responses to Roman Soldiers




Churchianity Examined

Connecting The Dots

The Authority Totem

Twenty Percent Fewer Errors

Fire The Clergy

     Responses to Fire The Clergy

The Wealth of Churches

Authority In Church Government

The Fleecing of The Flock

The Great Commission Does Not Apply




CAUTIONChristianity May Be Hazardous to Your Health

Victims of Religion

   Responses to Victims of Religion

Voices In Our Head

Brainwashing

   Responses to Brainwashing

We Love Our Lies




Christian Morality or Lack Thereof 

Christianity Doesn't Work as Advertised

Hypocrisy- Thy Name is Christian

Morality

The Gospel of Jesus

 Happy Father's Day

He Wasn't a REAL Christian




Evangelical Atheism

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Without A Leg To Stand On (A Message For Freethinkers)

Give To Him That Asks

   Responses to Give To Him That Asks

Just Say No

   Responses to Just Say No

Damn The Truth- Full Speed Ahead

Answering Christian Stock Arguments

Modern Miracle Workers

Atheists In America

Anti-Religious Songs

Do Unto Others

Kissing Hank's Ass

Why Beer Is Better Than Jesus

Poster: Jesus is a Liar & Lunatic

The Good News of Atheism

The Skeptic’s Prayer

What Would Jesus Do?




Christian Cults

Consumers Guide to Religion- John Cleese of Monty Python (audio file)

Geek Speak Like a Fundy

   Responses to Geek Speak 101

How To Be a Fundy

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Baptists} Once Saved, Always Saved: Always False

Catholics: Only Child or Eldest Brother

Church of Christ

   Responses to Church of Christ Essays

Dr. Robert Schuller: Racism By A Nose

Jehovah Witnesses

Nazarenes} Entire Sanctification = Entire Nonsense

   Responses to Entire Sactification

Mormons

Seventh Day Adventists




For Christians...

Message to Christian Apologists

Notes to Christians Battling Atheists

Move A Mountain

Hope

Ex-Christians Get No Respect

Abortion

Hellfire For Homosexuals and Roses




Creationism, aka Intelligent Design

The Universe According To The Bible

   Responses to The Universe

In The Beginning God Was Nuts

Intelligent Design




Politics

Legalize Prostitution

Its The Economy, Stupid

Illegal Immigration

Bush Is Outta Here!!!

The Bush Monkey

Twilights Last Gleaming




Contra Craig
    (Dr. William Lane Craig)


Contra Craig

   Responses to Contra Craig




Misc.

Editorials

   Responses To Editorials

Comments to JCnot4me- Pro + Con

One Picture is Worth...

Links- Other Websites Worth Checking Out




Books You Should Read   

Jehovah Unmasked cover
Jehovah Unmasked




Ha Ha Ha

Christian Election Poster

Flying Spaghetti Monster

Invitation from Rev. Jim Jones

Jokes

Pranks

Songs and Poems




 





 

Thoughts on Homosexuality

Modern science is showing more and more "sins" to be biological
in origin, and NOT "moral choices". This presents a quandary
for Christians: how can Biblegod  justly roast somebody's ass in hell

 for all eternity for something over which they had no control??? Burning someone
in hell for having been born a certain way is as unjust as frying them
for having been born left handed, blue-eyed and Jewish. You may as well get angry
at roses for having thorns.

 

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Homosexuality

Gluttony

Please-_No_More_Gay_Movies

Responses_to_Hellfire_for_Homosexuals_and_Roses

 


 

 

March of The Gay Penguins into The Fires of Hell 

 

 

March of The (GAY) Penguins... Into the

   

 

Gay Penguins Break Up

Friday, September 16, 2005   FOX News
New York City's most famous gay penguin couple has split up. Even worse, one of them has taken up with a female penguin new to the Central Park Zoo, the New York Post reports. Silo and Roy, two male chinstrap penguins native to the South Atlantic, made local headlines six years ago when they came out with their same-sex relationship. Since then, the pair have successfully hatched and raised an adopted chick — after trying to incubate a rock — and become role models for six other same-sex couples among penguins at the zoo.  http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,169653,00.html

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The loving and kind Christians at the (and no, I'm not making this up) God Hates Fags website, BASED UPON THE CLEAR TEACHINGS OF THE  *BIBLE, say that homosexuality is AGAINST nature, UN-natural, and that gays both deserve to DIE and after death burn in HELL. But when you actually EXAMINE nature, rather than just READING ABOUT IT in some religious book like the Bible, and you discover that some animals are just born gay, they say, "What do you expect from nature? They're just messed up animals- following their nature." Therefore, being gay- it's both natural and UN-natural at the exact same time!  Isn't Fundy logic fascinating? And you Fundies wonder why we Atheists and Freethinkers get frustrated trying to communicate rationally with you!

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*Direct from The Bible, written by "God is Love" himself...

Gay = UN-Natural:     "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error."  (The Bible:  Romans 1:26,27 NASB)

Kill All Gays!!!!!:     "It's disgusting for men to have sex with one another, and those who do will be put to death, just as they deserve." (The Bible:  Leviticus 20:13  CEV)

 

 

 

 

 


Homosexuality 

Romans 1:24-28 (RSV)

24     Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves,

25     because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever! Amen.

26     For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural,

27     and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error.

28     And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a base mind and to improper conduct.

 

1st Corinthians 6:9-10  (NASB)

...the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God. Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals... shall inherit the Kingdom of God."

 

 

 

Biblegod clearly condemns people to hell for things over which they have no control, such as being born gay. This "Divine Wrath" against gays makes as much sense as yelling at a rose for having been "born" with thorns. Do Christians really think that Jesus would yell and curse at  plants that weren't the way he wanted, seeing how (according to Christian theory) he is the one who created them that way in the first place? That doesn't make much sense. (Come to think of it, Jesus DID cuss out a tree once, because it didn't have fruit in its off-season! See   http://bible.gospelcom.net/bgaudio/english/niv/hurl?passage=mark+11 )  Condemning people (or cussing out plants) for things over which they have no control is unjust, unfair, and just plain dumb- even if Jesus himself did it.

As for being gay, study after study has shown that gayness has biological roots. For example, a study conducted in Stockholm, Sweden, and published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences,

...put gay men into a brain-scanning machine and saw that the region of the anterior hypothalamus became activated when the men were given male sex hormones to smell. Heterosexual men showed more brain activity in this region  when smelling odors associated with female hormones... The brains of the homosexual men showed similar responses to that of heterosexual women when sniffing testosterone... The study shows that there is a neurobiological difference between gay and straight men."  (Los Angeles Times, p. A-12, 5/10/05)

That is, one has as much choice in the matter as one has over his DNA code or if he's born left or right handed. In spite of all the well documented scientific research, Christian dogma demands that Fundies continue to think that being heterosexual or homosexual is just a personal choice. According to the Christians,  sixteen year old Billy wakes up one morning and decides willy-nilly what's going to give him erections from now on, as if any sixteen year old boy has any control over where, when, how or why he gets an erection. For Christians to teach that any of us have control over what turns us on is just plain stupid and out of touch with reality (which, come to think of it, Christianity usually is). Some men get horny at the sight of a naked man, most men don't, but neither group has any choice in the matter.

Use your own common sense in this matter, and you'll see how stupid and out of touch with reality the Christian belief is. For example, some men get horny only for skinny blonds with suntans, others only for red heads with pasty white skin, others only for chunky brunettes, yet others for only Asians, yet others only for... you get the point. None of us has a choice over what turns us on, but the Fundies disagree with this. But you can prove they are wrong. Take a straight Fundy, and strip him naked, and put him on stage in front of the congregation. Then parade a bunch of naked gay men, sexy in a gay way, in front of him, and offer him  $10,000 to get an erection. Try as he might, it won't happen. The reason it won't happen is the same reason women can't rape men- men can't control what will or won't give them an erection, in spite of what Christian doctrine says. Sexual orientation is something you are BORN with, and no amount of money or threats can make a man get a hard-on over something that doesn't turn him on. If Christians would pull their heads out of their own asses they'd be able to see this. But as long as they keep their heads up their ass, it's very dark in there, and it's hard to see things clearly.

Once again, as has happened time and again in the last several hundred years, there is a  battle between science and religion. Every single battle has ALWAYS been won by science, with religion ending up looking like a backwards retard. In this latest battle, over the causes of sexual orientation, the religionists will, as always, lose. At what point in history will the religionists stop pitting their ancient myths against scientific fact?

Fundy Christians HATE gay men with such a passion, but what in the hell are they going to do about the gay sheep???  According to the newspaper:

Gay Sheep Show Different Structure of the Brain:  Gay sheep that mate only with other rams have different brain structures from "straight" sheep, a finding that may shed light on human sexuality, U.S. researchers (at Oregon Health & Science University) said Monday. "In a sense we confirmed what had been found in humans."  (Orange County Register, News 9, 11/5/02)

Even National Geographic is reporting that homosexuality and bisexuality is NOT UNCOMMON in animals. Part of what they cite is:

But, actually, some same-sex birds do do it. So do beetles, sheep, fruit bats, dolphins, and orangutans. Zoologists are discovering that homosexual and bisexual activity is not unknown within the animal kingdom. Roy and Silo, two male chinstrap penguins at New York's Central Park Zoo have been inseparable for six years now. They display classic pair-bonding behavior—entwining of necks, mutual preening, flipper flapping, and the rest. They also have sex, while ignoring potential female mates.  http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html

 

It seems even the animal kingdom has its gays and straights- what a quandary THIS is going to throw Christian theology into! Were these sheep "turned" gay by gay wolves dressed in sheep's clothing? How will this impact the fact that Jesus likens his followers to sheep? Were the penguins seduced by the fine tuxedo's? Once again, as science advances, religion will retreat further and further into its corner, barring its fangs against the world like cornered hamsters in a humorously ineffective defensive position.

Once again, we see the "just" Biblegod doing something that modern science has shown is actually MOST unjust- condemning people for the genetic code they were born with. Biblegod may as well send roses to hell for having thorns.


Gluttony

 

Gluttony turns out to be yet another "sin" that may be be genetically based. According to an Associated Press article, 

Binge eaters who say they can't help it may be right. A study suggests a weak gene, not feeble willpower, may be the cause for some people. The research may point the way to a future pill to tame their appetites.#1

Just think of it- according to the Bible, gluttony is a sin, but scientists may soon have a pill to cure gluttony, therefore scientists may soon have a pill to cure a sin! Not the "blood of Jesus", not the mysterious work of the holy spook- just good old American drugs! The article goes on:

The joint Swiss-German-American study makes the strongest case yet that genetic mistakes can cause an eating disorder, researchers say. Traditionally, eating behavior has been viewed as complex and cultural in its causes.  ...researchers focused on a gene linked to obesity in earlier studies. Known as the melanocortin 4 receptor gene, it makes a protein by that name that helps stimulate appetite in the brain's hunger-regulating hypothalamus. If a mutated gene makes too little protein, the body feels too much hunger. The researchers considered 469 severely obese white adults. About one-fourth of them were binge eaters, but among the 5 percent with the mutated gene, ALL were binge eaters.

So it appears that bad genes, over which none of us has any control, can cause binge eating. In light of the above modern REAL science, read the following ancient religious superstitions from the Christian Bible:

For many, of whom I have often told you and now tell you even with tears, live as enemies of the cross of Christ. Their end is destruction, their god is the belly, and they glory in their shame, with minds set on earthly things.Philippians 3:18,19 RSV

 

Then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, 'This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.' Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones; so you shall purge the evil from your midst; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.    Deuteronomy 21:19-21 RSV

Well, I guess the good news is that soon a simple PILL will be able to "purge the evil of gluttony from the midst" of the Christians, so they no longer have to KILL THEIR OWN KIDS for overeating. Oh, but I forgot! That was the "Freddy Krueger" god of the Old Testament, and not the loving Jesus of the New, the Jesus who tosses millions of people into hell. 

Once again, we see the "just" Biblegod doing something that modern science has shown is actually MOST unjust- condemning people for the genetic code they were born with. Biblegod may as well send roses to hell for having thorns.

 

#1)    The Orange County Register, 3/20/03, page News 24

 


 

Please- No More Gay Movies 

--Mark Smith--  December 2005

Introduction:     First off, I have nothing against gay people. I have friends who are gay, relatives who are gay. Hell, my best friend back in high school was gay.  As far as I'm concerned, homophobic Fundies like Pat Robertson and Jimmy "I'll rent a hooker" Swaggart can go to hell. That said, I like gay people. I do not, however, like seeing them waste their money investing in gay movies. If they want to throw their money away, be like everyone else and go to Las Vegas. This short essay is an attempt to help them save their money.

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A lot of people who work in the movie industry, write screenplays and movie scripts, live  in West Hollywood, California. West Hollywood, for those of you who don't know, is gay. Very gay. If you are a writer living in West Hollywood, all your neighbors are gay, the mail man is gay, the clerk at the local 7-11 is gay, and if you have gold fish, they're probably gay too. It's a very gay place. To these writers, as far as they can see on a clear day, the entire world looks gay. Because of that, and  because people tend to write about that which they're familiar, Hollywood seems to crank out about one or two gay films a month. These gay movies are a big hit in West Hollywood, but tend to go straight to video everywhere else. You would think Hollywood would get the hint by now, but it seems that most don't learn from history. So the latest gay movie to emerge from West Hollywood is a movie about gay cowboys called "Brokeback Mountain".


I am not gay, but I am an Atheist, as are about 15% of Americans. Most Americans find Atheism offensive, and any films or politicians who pushed or glorified it would bomb, or get bombed- literally. Therefore, a film about Atheists is probably the last thing I would ever consider investing money in. Gays are an even smaller minority than Atheists, at about 3% of the population. If Hollywood has the common sense to not make movies about Atheism, then why do they keep cranking out movies gays? Do they like losing money and wasting their time? As for being offensive, gayness outweighs Atheism many times over. If movies that only appeal to 15% of Americans would bomb, how much more so those that appeal to only 3%???  Those who make gay movies need to get out of West Hollywood long enough to get a feeling for Mr. Average Joe Sixpack living in the Red States, whom they expect by the millions to be buying tickets to see their gay movies.  While watching two gay cowboys get naked, rub their oily bodies together, French kiss and hump each other- while this might get the average resident of West Hollywood all hot and hard, to Joe Sixpack (the target audience) it is about as appealing as watching someone throw up onto their dinner plate and then have someone else lick it off while finger nails screetch down a black board and Roseanne Barr sings the National Anthem at 120 db. Did I make myself clear? Let me try again: for MOST Americans, watching, or even thinking about, two men sucking and fucking each other, this makes them want to THROW UP- it makes them literally PHYSICALLY SICK TO THEIR STOMACHS. Trust them when they tell you this- take the hint- I am NOT exaggerating to make a point. Given that, how many Joe Sixpack Americans will want to see your gay movies? About the same number of Muslims in Saudi Arabia that would go see a pro-Israel movie: ZERO.  How many sane people want to pay good money at a movie theater so they can get morally outraged, or sick and throw up into their popcorn bags? Yes, to West Hollywood it's a beautiful thing (the movie, not the vomit-corn) and they're all in love with each other etc etc, but the vast majority of non-gay Americans ARE NOT YOU and have a very different reaction, a reaction that comes from deep within their gut and over which they have NO control. So come on, gay people, you're smarter than this. You know not many Americans will want to see this gay cowboy movie. They'd rather listen to Roseanne Barr.

 

 

 

 


Responses to Hellfire for Homosexuals and Roses  

 

 

 
Subject: On gays
Date: 10/18/2005 11:59:28 P.M. Pacific Standard Time
From: brentmcbain@gmail.com
Reply To:
To: JCnot4me@aol.com

 

The Bibles stance on gays...
God loves all people and has a desire that all would come to know Him and obey and worship Him. Because He is perfect in Love, He has given us the opportunity to choose to follow His commands or not, and as such, "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." Romans 3:23 None of us are perfect, but at some point God can give people over to their own lust and desires. In the Bible it says "they exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones and the men became inflamed with lust for other men and the women also had unnatural relations with other women." So the deal is, maybe as apart of Gods wrath, some become perverse and are seemingly "born gay." The fact of the matter is, just like me being born straight, it's not right for me to have sex with any girl I want, I need to save that for just one woman, my wife, and avoid sexual temptation. If they have gay feelings, they need to have self control and get help. I know that you have a hard time with this argument because you don't believe in God, but that's the fact of what we believe, so to hurl a attacking statement in a cowardly way at us on your website and not telling it like it is, you show your ignorance once again and need to thing through your hate statement toward what we really think. Brent.

Mark Smith here}     Brent, there is "nothing" about being "born" gay that "you" need to "put" in quotes as if the "jury" is still out on the verdict. Some people are B-O-R-N gay. That is scientific FACT, and not something that you should mockingly put in quotes.

What I would like to see you xtians address is the topic of GAY ANIMALS. Please explain that one. IF being gay is against nature (as your quote from the Apostle Paul says above), they explain how in nature homosexuality doesn't just exists, it ABOUNDS.  Anyone who's ever owned a dog has seen boy dogs try to get it on with other boy dogs- hell, those horny hounds will even try to get it on with your leg if you stand still. This being the case (and please, don't insult my intelligence and claim it isn't), how can a NATURAL behavior be UN-NATURAL???? Or are you going to claim that gay activists snuck in and "converted" billions of straight dogs into being gay dogs???

 

 






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