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The essay below is taken from an English web site. The author
name is not given, but what he writes has
been on my mind the past several years. I too have found email exchanges with
Christians to oft times be like dealing with the braindead. Read what he says.
Maybe if you're a Christian, maybe, just maybe, something might seep thru one of
your many cracks. If you're an Atheist, you'll catch yourself saying "Been
there, done that" as you read.
-----Mark Smith
It
should be noted that I no longer reply to, or even read emails written by
Christians. The simple reason for this is that after four years of
running this website, I have gained the unmistakable impression that
Christians are unable to produce anything which resembles a meaningful,
objective and factual exegesis.
Samples of the emails received from Christians can be
read through pages Christian
apologetics, and Discussions
with theists. These show, only too clearly, that those Christians who
write are ignorant of their own faith and scripture, although, ironically,
they are only too ready to accuse their opponents of 'ignorance'.
I seem to have spent much of my time correcting them
of errors which presumably only exist through their refusal to undertake
proper study of the subject and if they do undertake any study, this is
confined to fundamentalist literature and their preacher's ravings.
No less relevant is the fact that many are unable to
engage in dialogue without personal and slanderous remarks which of course
demonstrates their desperation and the lack of any basis to their
myths-beliefs.
In addition to the ignorance displayed of the subject,
it is also evident that these Christians cannot be bothered to even read the
content of the website which reveals either an extraordinary arrogance and/or
ignorance. This becomes evident when, despite the fact that I have supplied
more than sufficient information to corroborate a point made, this is ignored
and the Christian will send an email raising issues which have been fully
dealt with on the website.
Two examples of this are: in Discussion
8 where I have detailed how Jesus did not fulfill his prediction of being
buried for '3 days and 3 nights' and yet Christians still write and say I am
'ignorant' of the fact that a part-day can be treated as a day and the Jewish
reckoning of time is different. However, if they bothered to look at the
website, they would see this is dealt with and, if anything, their suggestions
make their own position even less plausible. This again confirms they have
simply accepted what they have been told without bothering to analyze this.
In respect of contradictions, it has been necessary to
point out the obvious, i.e., to show that the Bible is inerrant each and every
contradiction has to be resolved: there is no logic in trying to 'explain
away' the contradictions in just a few texts. Despite saying this countless
times, I still receive puerile attempts by Christians to resolve the
contradictions of a few Biblical texts. No less relevant is the fact that (a)in
most cases their 'solution' is by simply rewriting the text to provide another
meaning altogether, and/or (b)quoting large chunks of drivel from
fundamentalist writings.
I have said this so many times but because Christians
appear to be so doltish it seems that I have to repeat it yet again:
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At
this stage it is also worth noting that many Christians take it upon
themselves to try and show there are no contradictions in the Bible.
They do this by selecting a small number listed on this website (NB.
this listing is not exhaustive anyway) and then, by virtually
rewriting the text, adding various meanings and/or omitting the
pertinent wording, they seek to show that no contradiction arises.
Apart from the fact they can only do this by
indulging in fanciful - and dishonest - manipulation of the material,
they fail to grasp the obvious fact that the contradictions are listed
to show that the Bible is not inerrant. They appear unable to grasp
that if
only one contradiction remains,
then the Bible is revealed as something which is not inerrant.
Consequently, if they are intent on rejecting this view, they
obviously need to go through each and every contradiction listed and
show why there is no contradiction. There is, therefore, no logic in
just selecting a few of these. Only one contradiction is required to
prove the argument that the Bible is not inerrant.
The same really applies for unfulfilled
prophecies: only one is needed to show that the Bible is
untrustworthy: as there are several of these (e.g. Matt 10:23, Mark
9:1) which cannot be 'argued away', the assertion that the Bible is
unreliable is thereby proved. And this is despite whatever fanciful
arguments may be offered by Christians who appear to enjoy being
deceived.
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A classic example of Christian ignorance and
hypocrisy was provided by an email in December 2002. In this a Christian
wrote saying that I 'couldn't read' as there is no contradiction between
Genesis 1 and 2. However, if as the Christian argues, the contradiction is
not there, this also means a large number of academics have also made
precisely the same error. As shown in the latter part of Discussion
7, Professor Ringgren, one such academic, who is also a Christian,
concedes the presence of the contradiction. The only difference here is that
Ringgren is an academic who undertakes objective research and study whereas
the Christian is disinterested in anything factual and accurate.
Presumably, as so often happens, the Christian did
not bother to read this page before sending his puerile email, or considered
himself better educated than a professor of theology. Interestingly, the
Christian entered 'What the F*ck' as the subject title of his email (the '*'
was however a 'u') indicating he, as other Christians, has customized his
faith and ignores any Biblical injunctions which he does not like. In this
case, Col 3:8.
The problem is also exacerbated by the fact that
many of the writers appear wholly incapable of producing succinct
statements, but chose to submit a long, rambling, disjointed tirade, lacking
any empirical evidence and having little which is directly relevant, but
expect the recipient to read this: secondly, many appear unable to write
without the inclusion of numerous misspellings and grammatical errors.
Christian writers also demonstrate their gullibility
and lack of reading by some of the arguments that they offer. For example
one writer referred to how a Christian worker had been financially supported
in his work which indicated miraculous intervention by God. In fact this
type of claim was shown to be absurd nearly three hundred years ago by the
philosopher David Hume who pointed out that miracles are claimed by
adherents of all the religions. Therefore, unless one adopts radical
pluralism, i.e., God works equally through all the different religions and
belief-structures, the argument that Christian belief is shown to be valid
by God performing a miracle in a Christian context, is clearly absurd. A
minimal amount of thought and consideration would make this evident but
Christians seem to be incapable of such activity.
It is noteworthy and significant that none of these
Christians are able to invalidate the view expressed on this website that
the Jesus, as depicted in the New Testament, never existed as a historical
being: a viewpoint, which if correct, invalidates the entire Christian
belief in one stroke. As noted, early Christian canonical writings (e.g.
Paul's) say nothing about the life of Jesus as depicted in the Gospels;
furthermore, there are no non-canonical writings, contemporary with the
period in which Jesus is supposed to have lived, which make any mention of
him whatsoever and this is despite there being historians active at the
time. Consequently, any faith which is dependent upon the New Testament
Jesus is therefore both wholly absurd and fanciful. This point, made
elsewhere, is repeated here in the hope that some Christians may at least
take the time to actually read and consider what is being asserted:
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We are expected to believe
that Jesus was entirely ignored by all secular writers at the time that
he supposedly lived even though:
Special star appears to signal his birth (Matt 2:2). Massacre of infants in attempt to kill him (Matt 2:16). Goes about 'healing every disease and every infirmity' (Matt 4:23). Fame spreads throughout all Syria so 'all the sick' are brought to him
- who are then healed by him (Matt 4:24). Followed by 'crowds' (Matt 5:1). 'Great crowds' follow him (Matt 8:1). Heals leper (Matt 8:3). Heals paralysed servant (Matt 8:13). Heals Peter's mother-in-law (Matt 8:15). 'Many' afflicted brought to him: he heals 'all who were sick' (Matt
8:16). Great crowds follow him (Matt 8;18). Heals demoniacs and kills some pigs (Matt 8:32). Heals paralytic (Matt 9:7). Crowds witness healing (Matt 9:8). A ruler comes to him for help with daughter (Matt 9:18). Heals woman with hemorrhage (Matt 9:22). Heals ruler's daughter (Matt 9:25). 'Report of this went through all that district' (Matt 9:26). Heals two blind men (Matt 9:30). They 'spread his fame through all that district' (Matt 9:31). Heals dumb demoniac (Matt 9:33). Crowds marvel (Matt 9:33). Heals 'every disease and every infirmity' as he travels about cities
and villages (Matt 9:35). Followed by crowds (Matt 9:36). Preaches in cities (Matt 11:1). Speaks to crowds (Matt 11:7). Heals man with withered hand (Matt 12:13). Many follow him and 'he heals them all' (Matt 12:15). Heals blind and dumb demoniac (Matt 12:22). 'Great crowds gather' around him (Matt 13:2). Speaks to the crowds (Matt 13:34). Herod hears about Jesus' fame (Matt 14:1). Crowds follow him, he heals the sick, and feeds 5000+ (Matt 14:13). On entering Gennesaret, he is recognized and all the sick are brought
to him and all those who touch him are healed (Matt 14:36). Great crowds come to him with the sick and they are healed (Matt
15:30). 'The thong' see 'the dumb speaking, the maimed whole, the lame walking
and the blind seeing' (Matt 15:31). Feeds 4000+. Crowds are sent away
(Matt 15:38). Meets crowd and heals epileptic (Matt 17:14,18). Large crowds follow him in Judea and he heals them (Matt 19:2). Great crowd follows him on leaving Jericho (Matt 20:29). Heals two blind men (Matt 20:34). Ejects Temple traders (Matt 21:12). Heals blind and lame (Matt 21:14). People call for his execution (Matt 27:23). All the people admit responsibility (Matt 27:25). Darkness 'over all the land' (Matt 27:45). Temple curtain torn and earthquake (Matt 27:51). Saints came out of their tombs and appear in Jerusalem (Matt
27:52-53). Resurrected from dead (Matt 28:1ff).
It is of course too absurd for words for any
rational person to suggest that anyone who was involved in all of this
(and the above is only from Matthew - John has further miracles), and
in just three years (John) or one year (Synoptics), could go unnoticed
by all the secular writers of the time, and indeed anyone capable of
writing.
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As also stated elsewhere:
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As
far as I know, every person who runs a website that challenges
Christian belief receives emails from Christians which have the
following characteristics:
(1) Christians seem unable to grasp the
substance of the discussion because of their limited reading
(2) There
is frustration of not being able to substantiate any of the claims
made and the Christian eventually makes statements which are both
absurd and cannot be verified ('I know that Jesus loves me', or 'God
is holy')
(3) They show an absolute unwillingness to carefully and
objectively consider the evidence. This of course is not surprising as
Christians needs their faith to make sense of the world and to deal
with their own shortcomings.
In fact by virtue of what Christian belief is, some
might consider it impossible to have a meaningful dialogue simply
because the Christian will not concede anything that challenges
his/her faith. Possibly they choose to 'take on' the atheist in the
hope that this will strengthen their faith, and on seeing that this is
unsuccessful, have no option other than to resort to fanciful
generalizations and extravagant claims.
The Christian also cites the Bible, or rather, gives
his/her interpretation from those particular carefully-selected parts
of the Bible that suit his/her thinking but cannot show why the text
should be considered as authoritative. If I cited the Upanishads
or the Koran or Das Kapital to assert a point, I am sure
the Christian would want evidence or sound reason for why these
writings are to be deemed authoritative and he/she cannot do this with
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Consequently, I have come to the inevitable
conclusion that Christians are simply incapable of analyzing the subject; it
is of course bizarre that they
(a) Search out websites that challenge their faith
(b) Yet they do not bother to consider the content, but
(c) Send
emails which fail to resolve anything of the challenges made.
As Christians repeatedly assert that the reason for
their faith is that 'Jesus saves them from their sin', this can only be
recognized as an admission that their faith is not based on empirical
evidence, or logic, or common sense, but it fulfils an emotion need or
resolves a feeling of inadequacy. In view of this it is hardly surprising
that Christians are incapable of reasoned debate.
Frequently I have been warned by Christian emailers
that when I die, I will be 'in
hell-fire' - but these writers never explain
how on the death of the body, 'I', without body and brain (by which
personhood/selfhood is realized), could still exist. As all humans are a
psycho-physical unity, a fact confirmed by an overwhelming mass of
scientific evidence, whereas there is no evidence for a belief in body-soul
distinction ('dualism'), the Christian writers are clearly taking refuge in
pure fantasy. They also fail to explain how, if I survived death as a
non-physical spirit/soul, I could therefore be tormented by physical flames
(and gnash my teeth!).
The Christian belief in hell is well-defined by
George H. Smith in Atheism: The Case Against God:
'Hell stands as a constant reminder of the essence of Christianity: God is
to be obeyed because, in the final analysis, he is bigger and stronger
than we are. And in addition, he is incomparably more vicious. With the
warning of 'Obey God or burn in hell', we have a...revealing glimpse into
the core of Christianity' (p.301).
Finally, as a excellent example of the hypocrisy
that pervades Christianity, I find it remarkable that these people who
consider themselves Christians and are so confident of themselves that they
seek out atheistic websites to argue against atheism, and yet they do not
even satisfy the very conditions laid down in the Bible for Christian life.
As stated elsewhere:
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Why do so many Christians
fail to comply with Biblical statements? For example, Christ is said to
have raised the dead, walked on water, fed many thousands with morsels
of food, cured all manner of illnesses, and in John 14:12, he is
reported to have said:
'He who believes in me
will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he
do...'.
Consequently, Christians should be achieving not
only all that Christ is said to have done, but even more than this.
And yet, this is not so. Why not if they are Christians?
One of the most noticeable features of Christian behavior is how Christians 'customize' their faith, i.e., any
Biblical teaching/instruction which they consider will restrict how
they wish to enjoy life is just conveniently forgotten about, or
deemed 'symbolic', or suchlike. For example, Christ is reported to have said:
'He who loves father or
mother more than me is not worthy of me; and he who loves son or
daughter more than me is not worthy of me' (Matt 10:37).
'He who does not take up
his cross and follow me is not worthy of me' (Matt 10:38).
'If any man would come
after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.
For whoever would save his life will lose it, and whoever loses his
life for my sake will find it' (Matt 16:24-25).
'If any one comes to me
and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children...he
cannot be my disciple' (Luke 14:26)
How many Christians now desert and hate their own
families and adopt a life of suffering and give up their life for
their faith? Christ is also reported to have said:
'Do not lay up for
yourselves treasures on earth' (Matt 6:19).
'So therefore, whoever
of you does not renounce all that he has cannot be my disciple' (Luke
14:33).
'It is easier for a
camel to go through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter the
kingdom of God' (Matt 19:24.)
Despite the frantic attempts by
Christians to give this a 'symbolic' or 'allegorical' meaning, the
statement is absolutely clear: the 'rich' cannot enter heaven. 'Rich'
in first century Palestine would have normally been understood to
refer to having wealth which far exceeded basic day-to-day needs (Luke
16:19-23 which tells the story of the rich man and the beggar
emphasizes this point. The faith or lack of faith of either man is not
even mentioned: all we are told is that the rich man went to hell and
the poor man/beggar to paradise).
However, on looking at the lifestyle of most Christians in the West
(particularly fundamentalists), such people certainly satisfy the term
'rich' by owning their own home (or homes), the size of which far
exceeds their actual need, many owning a car, or several cars, and
having a plethora of material goods. The vast majority also have
savings, investment portfolios, pension schemes, and so on. How many, as
Christ instructs, have actually renounced 'all that they have'?
Therefore, according to Christ, they are destined for hell.
Furthermore, Christian behavior is also in complete
contrast to Acts 2:44-45 which reports that the first believers 'had
all things in common; and they sold their possessions and goods and
distributed them to all, as any had need'. How many Christians do
this?
In Matt 5:42, Jesus is reported to have instructed:
'Give to him who begs
from you, and do not refuse him who would borrow from you'.
And yet I have not
encountered a Christian who does this.
All of this of course demonstrates that Christians
'customize' their faith, i.e., modify, amend and manipulate it so it
suits their own preferred lifestyle. It is deemed to be fine if it
resolves personal unresolved feelings of guilt, inadequacy and
isolation but at the same time, it does not cause too much
inconvenience and upset the desired lifestyle. And yet surely it is
only reasonable to expect Christians to comply with all the scriptural
instructions which apply to them before they begin preaching to
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After writing this, I know that Christians will
continue to send inane emails simply because Christian belief requires
ignorance, narrow-mindedness and a complete inability to consider a differing
viewpoint. Any Christians who do send emails will simply be referred here.



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